shattering the youth treatment mold and getting real about drugs, alcohol and mental health, with Wes Robins & Zac Sweat of Eternal Strength

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Guests: Wes Robins & Zac Sweat of Eternal Strength

Show Resources:

Success is Subjective Podcast - Episode 63: deeper background on Wes and Zac

Gabor Mate’ - In The Realm of Hungry Ghosts and website

Dr. Shefali Tsabary, The Awakened Family & The Conscious Parent

Antipsychiatry - Roswell, GA

Ritual Zero-Proof Spirit Alternatives

Seedlip Non-Alcoholic Spirits

Show Notes:

SPEAKERS

Brenda Zane, Wes Robins, Zac Sweat

Episode topics: parenting, teens, mental health, family, addiction, recovery, substance use

0:00 Intros, background on Wes & Zac

9:24 Thoughts on the current adolescent treatment space and options

15:18 Has the treatment world kept up with the real world kids are living in today?

17:11 The radical pilgrimage of growth at Eternal Strength

25:13 How treatment can not feel like treatment

32:39 Levels and types of support provided at Eternal Strength

35:06 When it makes sense to think about care outside the home and a note about wilderness therapy

38:56 What role self-care plays in the treatment decision

40:52 When parents are afraid to parent and sub-contract the role to others

41:33 Parents doing their own work and the families that end up doing the best

44:28 Recommendations for parents who are in crisis right now

48:28 Kahlil Gibran's poem, On Children

51:14 But what about the reality of fentanyl?

55:38 Why boundaries are important, no matter what happens

59:03 Wes and Zac's billboard & their newly opened sacred space

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